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Re: Schneier on Bernstein factoring machine
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Russell Nelson)
Wed Apr 17 14:34:30 2002
From: Russell Nelson <nelson@crynwr.com>
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 11:53:15 -0400 (EDT)
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Derek Atkins writes:
> Russell Nelson <nelson@crynwr.com> writes:
>
> > The union of the two sets of "cryptography users" and "paranoid
> > people" is necessarily non-empty. Who would bother to use
> > cryptography sans a threat model? And if you've got a non-empty
> > threat model, then by definition you're paranoid.
>
> I think it's really about degree. I don't agree that having a
> non-empty threat model implies you a paranoid.
Yes, you're right (and Phil Pennock points out that I meant
"intersection", not "union"). Dictionary.com defines paranoia as
"Extreme, irrational distrust of others." I'm not using the correct
word here (nor are other people), because there are rational reasons
to distrust nosyparkers. So what *is* the right word for having a
non-empty threat model for moderate and rational reasons?
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