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Re: [Cryptography] What TLS ciphersuites are still OK?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ben Laurie)
Tue Sep 10 10:19:49 2013

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From: Ben Laurie <ben@links.org>
To: james hughes <hughejp@mac.com>
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	Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
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On 10 September 2013 03:59, james hughes <hughejp@mac.com> wrote:

>
> On Sep 9, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
> wrote:
>
> On 09/09/2013 05:29 PM, Ben Laurie wrote:
>
> Perry asked me to summarise the status of TLS a while back ... luckily I
> don't have to because someone else has:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sheffer-tls-bcp-00
>
> In short, I agree with that draft. And the brief summary is: there's only
> one ciphersuite left that's good, and unfortunately its only available in
> TLS 1.2:
>
> TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
>
> I retract my previous "+1" for this ciphersuite. This is hard coded 1024
> DHE and 1024bit RSA.
>

It is not hard coded to 1024 bit RSA. I have seen claims that some
platforms hard code DHE to 1024 bits, but I have not investigated these
claims. If true, something should probably be done.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On 10 September 2013 03:59, james hughes <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:hughejp@mac.com" target=3D"_blank">hughejp@mac.com</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div cla=
ss=3D"im"><br><div><div>On Sep 9, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Stephen Farrell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie" target=3D"_blank">stephen.farrell=
@cs.tcd.ie</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On 09/09/2013 05:29 PM, Ben Laurie wrote:<br>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite">Perry asked me to summarise the status of TLS a w=
hile back ... luckily I<br>don&#39;t have to because someone else has:<br><=
br>
<a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sheffer-tls-bcp-00" target=3D"_=
blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sheffer-tls-bcp-00</a><br><br>In sh=
ort, I agree with that draft. And the brief summary is: there&#39;s only<br=
>
one ciphersuite left that&#39;s good, and unfortunately its only available =
in<br>TLS 1.2:<br><br>TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256</blockquote></blo=
ckquote></div></div><div>I retract my previous &quot;+1&quot; for this=A0ci=
phersuite. This is=A0hard coded 1024 DHE and 1024bit RSA.=A0</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It is not hard coded to 1024 bit RSA=
. I have seen claims that some platforms hard code DHE to 1024 bits, but I =
have not investigated these claims. If true, something should probably be d=
one.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div>

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