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Re: [Cryptography] encoding formats should not be committee'ized
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James A. Donald)
Thu Oct 3 09:48:20 2013
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Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 17:50:44 +1000
From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com>
To: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAMm+LwidbKnvbk9fXj8uW7iM4ekvOWSO_6-9y48-amwcvRwd6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: Jerry Leichter <leichter@lrw.com>, "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>,
"cryptography@metzdowd.com" <cryptography@metzdowd.com>
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On 2013-10-02 23:09, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>
> No, the reason for baring multiple inheritance is not that it is too
> clever, it is that studies have shown that code using multiple
> inheritance is much harder for other people to understand than code
> using single inheritance.�
That is because of the class of problems for which it is appropriate to
use multiple inheritance.
>
> The original reason multiple inheritance was added to C was to support
> collections.
Was it? And regardless of whether that was the reason, not what it is
used for today.
> So I can't see where C++ is helping. It is reducing, not improving my
> productivity.
C++ greatly improves my productivity, in particular the memory
management classes std::unique_ptr and std::shared_ptr, though if using
them means you have to use std::weak_ptr, then one has to pause and think.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2013-10-02 23:09, Phillip
Hallam-Baker wrote:<br>
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<div>No, the reason for baring multiple inheritance is not that
it is too clever, it is that studies have shown that code
using multiple inheritance is much harder for other people to
understand than code using single inheritance.�</div>
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<br>
That is because of the class of problems for which it is appropriate
to use multiple inheritance.<br>
<br>
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cite="mid:CAMm+LwidbKnvbk9fXj8uW7iM4ekvOWSO_6-9y48-amwcvRwd6Q@mail.gmail.com"
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<div>The original reason multiple inheritance was added to C was
to support collections. </div>
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</blockquote>
<br>
Was it? And regardless of whether that was the reason, not what it
is used for today.<br>
<br>
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cite="mid:CAMm+LwidbKnvbk9fXj8uW7iM4ekvOWSO_6-9y48-amwcvRwd6Q@mail.gmail.com"
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<div> So I can't see where C++ is helping. It is reducing, not
improving my productivity.</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
C++ greatly improves my productivity, in particular the memory
management classes std::unique_ptr and std::shared_ptr, though if
using them means you have to use std::weak_ptr, then one has to
pause and think.<br>
<br>
<br>
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