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Re: [Cryptography] AES-256- More NIST-y? paranoia

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tony Arcieri)
Thu Oct 3 15:28:53 2013

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From: Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 10:40:01 -0700
To: Ray Dillinger <bear@sonic.net>
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On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Ray Dillinger <bear@sonic.net> wrote:

> Leaving aside the question of whether anyone "weakened" it, is it
> true that AES-256 provides comparable security to AES-128?


No, there's a common misconception that the related key attacks make
AES-256 worse than AES-128 because AES-128 is not susceptible to these
attacks. The alleged source of this information is a Bruce Schneier blog
post (which is fine in and of itself, it's being misinterpreted).

In Schneier et al's book Cryptography Engineering he recommends AES-256
over AES-128, despite the flaws, but suggests we might consider looking for
a better cipher at this point. The rationale is that AES-256 still provides
a wider security margin.

-- 
Tony Arcieri

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Ray Dillinger <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bear@sonic.net" target=3D"_blank">bear@sonic.ne=
t</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34)">Leaving aside the question of whet=
her anyone &quot;weakened&quot; it, is it</span><br></div>
true that AES-256 provides comparable security to AES-128?</blockquote><div=
><br></div><div>No, there&#39;s a common misconception that the related key=
 attacks make AES-256 worse than AES-128 because AES-128 is not susceptible=
 to these attacks. The alleged source of this information is a Bruce Schnei=
er blog post (which is fine in and of itself, it&#39;s being misinterpreted=
).</div>

<div><br></div><div>In Schneier et al&#39;s book Cryptography Engineering h=
e recommends AES-256 over AES-128, despite the flaws, but suggests we might=
 consider looking for a better cipher at this point. The rationale is that =
AES-256 still provides a wider security margin.</div>

</div><div><br></div>-- <br>Tony Arcieri<br>
</div></div>

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