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Re: [Cryptography] Size of the PGP userbase?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Phillip Hallam-Baker)
Wed Dec 11 20:49:49 2013

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 20:38:04 -0500
From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>
To: Jon Callas <jon@callas.org>
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On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Jon Callas <jon@callas.org> wrote:

> You should at the very least look at keyserver.pgp.com, which has very
> good numbers, because you have to re-verify your key there every six months
> or it gets deleted.
>
> As Tamzen said, you're going to miss lots of keyservers that are
> domain-specific keyservers for all the people using PGP Universal (now
> known as Symantec Ecryption Server, because when you think of email
> encryption, you think of Symantec). You'll find those because they're
> (typically) using the hostname "keys.domain.tld" and have an LDAP server. I
> know there are several million users of that around the net.
>

Takeup of PGP and S/MIME seems to be very much like takeup for IPSEC. There
are some big intranet deployments and possibly a few extranet deployments.

What is the gap we have to close to turn this on by default?

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On W=
ed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Jon Callas <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:jon@callas.org" target=3D"_blank">jon@callas.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
You should at the very least look at <a href=3D"http://keyserver.pgp.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">keyserver.pgp.com</a>, which has very good numbers, becaus=
e you have to re-verify your key there every six months or it gets deleted.=
<br>

<br>
As Tamzen said, you&#39;re going to miss lots of keyservers that are domain=
-specific keyservers for all the people using PGP Universal (now known as S=
ymantec Ecryption Server, because when you think of email encryption, you t=
hink of Symantec). You&#39;ll find those because they&#39;re (typically) us=
ing the hostname &quot;keys.domain.tld&quot; and have an LDAP server. I kno=
w there are several million users of that around the net.<br>
</blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Takeup of PGP and S/MIME seems to be=
 very much like takeup for IPSEC. There are some big intranet deployments a=
nd possibly a few extranet deployments.</div><div><br></div><div>What is th=
e gap we have to close to turn this on by default?</div>
<div><br></div>-- <br>Website: <a href=3D"http://hallambaker.com/">http://h=
allambaker.com/</a><br>
</div></div>

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