[13405] in APO-L
Re: National Disclaimer
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Finder)
Wed Dec 13 15:31:09 1995
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 11:56:14 -0400
Reply-To: Randy Finder <naraht@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU>
From: Randy Finder <naraht@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list APO-L <APO-L@VM.CC.PURDUE.EDU>
In-Reply-To: <199512131607.KAA00584@titan.comco.com>
On Wed, 13 Dec 1995, Doug McLaren wrote:
> Randy Finder was tellin' me ...
>
> | I think www.apo.org is probably less than a year away. The national
> | office seems to be getting more secure with email, but I think their
> | external connection for reading email is still a dialup line to AOL.
>
> Yes, apo.org does not appear to be registered.
>
It isn't. I checked with the internic whois site.
> If the national office thinks it may wish to put something up under
> apo.org in the future, they should register it *now*, even if they
> don't plan on using it yet (I can provide them with DNS service until
> apo.org really goes online if they really need it, as I believe you
> need DNS service to register a domain, even if there aren't any
> machines to go into it yet.) It will be far easier to register it now
> than to try and take it away from somebody else who may register it in
> the future.
I agree that registerring as soon as possible is good, however I don't
think we have much chance of taking it away from anyone especially since
we don't even have consistency in our own organization over
abbreviations. All three of the people I know of on the electronic
communications committee are on APO-L and read it regularly. If you don't
get any response on your DNS offer, I'll give their email addresses.
>
> Of course, if apo.org were taken, they could always try a-phi-o.org or
> something like that, but apo.org is the obvious choice.
>
I think it more likely that if apo was taken then we'd take aponsf or
something like that.
> There's no real reason why www.apo.org couldn't exist far sooner than
> a year, except for the national office not wanting it to exist. It
> shouldn't even be hard to find somebody willing to host it on their
> virtual web server (a single machine that does web service for many
> domains) for free.
I wouldn't ascribe it to malice, but rather that the national office
isn't really ready to jump in with both feet yet. That is why the
subcommittee was set up is that the national office is not on the cutting
edge of technology either in equipment or knowledge AND knows that. However
they do recognized that there are brothers out there quite willing to lead the
way.
Again, hopefully your suggestion on that will be answered by someone on
the committee.
>
> ...
> | apo.org is currently available, the biggest problem may be that the
> | people who give out domains now require that if you sign up for a domain
> | and someone challanges whether you have the right to take that domain,
> | you have to fight it legally, not the poeple who give out domains.
> | However about 20 social greeks and a couple of honoraries have already
> | gone there.
>
> I think Alpha Phi Omega has a pretty good reason to want to use
> apo.org. Of course, if there's some other organization out there with
> the initals A P and O, they would have as much right to it as Alpha
> Phi Omega. In those cases, it typically appears to be first come,
> first serve.
Yes, it is first come first serve.
>
> Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer. I don't really like lawyers (well, I
> don't like what they're used for in many cases), or those who use
> lawyers to bully other people :)
It was neccesary. There were people taking the natural domain names for
large companies for no other reason than to squeeze money out of them.
One example is mcdonalds.com.
>
> (In case anybody's asking who this `Doug McLaren' bozo is, I'm an
> Alpha Rho (University of Texas at Austin) alumni, have been out of
> touch of things for a bit, but am kind of working on fixing that.)
Posting to APO-L is a great start!
YiLFS
Randy Finder
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