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Re: Gender Integration

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joseph M. Fisher)
Sun Nov 17 13:33:35 1996

Date:         Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:33:10 -0800
Reply-To: "Joseph M. Fisher" <jfisher@RacerX.mse.jhu.edu>
From: "Joseph M. Fisher" <jfisher@RacerX.mse.jhu.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list APO-L <APO-L@VM.CC.PURDUE.EDU>
In-Reply-To:  <9611162216.AA06955@RacerX.mse.jhu.edu>

On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Robert Dean wrote:

> On a technical note, I do not believe the resolutions on the table are
> sufficient to force the chapters to go co-ed.  There was a 3/4 vote to allow

This is a fuzzy area.  Procedure would very likely be satisfied by a
majority, as the "Gentleman's Agreement" - whether it is the
resolution posted by Bill Rugh or something lost in the 1976 minutes - is
not a bylaw, nor was it judged to have a substantial effect on the
execution of the bylaws (else it would have required a 3/4 vote in the
first place).  But I think we SHOULD demand a 3/4 vote.  We need a clear
stand on this.

What the Rules Committee may do is to declare that the various proposals
amount to changes in the meaning of the bylaws - something that is within
their authority, as Reuben discussed earlier - and fashion from one of the
resolutions a proposal explicitly putting coeducation in the bylaws.  I
do think that the resolutions will get rewritten at any rate, as their
impact is not terribly clear.  I won't suggest anything because it would
just be speculation right now... I don't know what the committee procedure
is for such a situation.  Perhaps one of our convention veterans can
enlighten us?  Are there any recent examples of this happening to a
resolution?

Whatever we do, I think we should respect the fact that all active
brothers at all-male chapters pledged APO knowing (and presumably
accepting) that the chapter was all-male.  We should take reasonable steps
to allow that while they remain actives their chapter is under no
obligation to go coed.  A five-year time delay, for instance.  However I
really do need to rebut the "bonding" argument:

> That's a moot point.  We can play what if all day.  Perhaps the inclusion of
> women has made some collegiate men shy away from the organization in hopes
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> (This also brings to light the acceptability of having single-sex
> organizations, as they more often than not promote tighter bonding among the
> members -- sexual tension and gender conflict often inhibit close
> bonding...but that's a philosophical question).

Okay - maybe I'm making an unjustified assumption here - but aren't we all
mature, adult-type people?  Aren't we supposed to have gotten the "sexual
tension" and "gender conflict" problems over with already?  Wasn't that
what adolescence was for?

-- Cyrano

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