[17924] in APO-L
Re: Open Membership Apology
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Grossi)
Fri Dec 12 08:39:06 1997
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 08:37:07 -0500
Reply-To: jgrossi@bbnplanet.com
From: John Grossi <jgrossi@bbnplanet.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list APO-L <APO-L@VM.CC.PURDUE.EDU>
Thomas W. Strong Jr. wrote:
>
> On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Jrhmdtraum wrote:
> > According to the National Office, you are wrong. No new chapter may have all
> > males if it is a coed campus.
wrong. There are several campuses in this country that if they were
going through
the chartering process today (like VMI) where women are so small a
minority they
could very well get away with being all-male just from the point of fact
that
women at 0.01% of the campus population.
Another question which I'm surprised no one has thought of...
Recently in places like California, Affirmative Action, and things
like that have fallen off the books. With the passing of affirmative
action into history, is out forcing co-ed-ness in our chapters illegal?
(I know the answer, but I want to hear other people's opinions)
>
> Be careful, Bill didn't say otherwise. He corrected a previous post
> regarding the specific ations taken in 1976, but I don't recall him
> making any statements regarding the interpretation of those actions
> today by the national office.
It's very important to note that all new chapters will be representative
of the campus on which they are chartered. This is a catch all that by
is interpreted to mean that all minorities (of a reasonable size) will
be represented in the group. As an example of this there is one school
in my Section (US part) that is bilingual French/English. If I was
confronted
by an all English speaking group I'd tell them to go find French
Speakers.
Don't get hung up on the male/female thing! That's not the point... the
point is to create an organization that will do service and stand the
test
of time. And our experience has led us to believe that having a newly
chartered chapter that has a representative cross-section of the campus
community will do better over the long run.
>
> > 76 was the year that women were admitted as actives
> > (actually, the first woman active was admitted in '73 from Zeta as B.
> > Hesselmyer)
>
> I'm not so sure about that last statement - C. S.(usan) Robinson initiated
> on April 29, 1972 with Kappa, and I've heard claims from Alpha Chi of an
> even earlier date up there.
Being a little bit closer I know a little bit more. I guess things with
in
Alpha Chi started out as a seperate and parralel all-female organization
called Alpha Chi Delta and at some point they just started reporting
them
to Nationals with Initials... possibly one of the MIT brothers like c.c.
or mrn will be able to say more and back it up. I do know though that
Alpha Chi Delta was functional by the early 60s (about 63-64) as one of
my friends Mothers was involved in it.
-John Grossi
Section 94 Chairman
Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Qubec