[1641] in Discussion of MIT-community interests
[Mit-talk] RE: Mandatory T passes?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dugan Hayes!)
Fri Oct 21 16:36:46 2005
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58L.0510211440480.1681@scrubbing-bubbles.mit.edu>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:11:11 -0400
To: grace <gkenney@mit.edu>, Diandra Lucia <dmariel@mit.edu>
From: Dugan Hayes! <dhayes@mit.edu>
cc: ec-discuss@mit.edu
cc: mit-talk@mit.edu
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for those of us who spend less than $10 on the T all year, this would
suck. selling it is a possibility, but an inconvenience nonetheless.
and then criagslist would get a glut of t-passes for sale. i'm not
for it, personally.
At 2:50 PM -0400 10/21/05, grace wrote:
>as the article says, they would continue paying the MBTA people the same
>amount of money that they already pay them for the subsidized T pass
>program, which currently runs at something like $20-odd per pass [i
>think]. however, to lower our bill to $10, they'd have to have some huge
>chunk of the student population [read, everyone] sign on. if they made
>it optional, i assume that the danger would be too many people not opting
>in, leaving MIT to cover the difference. and we all know how MIT feels
>about picking up the tab for student services these days.
>
>me, i'm not sure how i feel about it - on one hand, i use the T a great
>deal. i certainly spend more than $10 on T tokens every month. $10
>for a month's pass is a fantastic deal. it's also more immediately and
>frequently useful to me than any of the other mandatory expenses people
>have been mentioning. but on the other hand, i don't like the creeping
>growth of mandatory expenses - there are too damn many already.
>
>perhaps an opt-out thing would work? i bet almost no one except the
>people really financially need it would opt-out, either because they'd
>find it useful or because they're too damn lazy. everyone wins.
>
>[fucking typical that the first time any undergrad hears about this is in
>a tech article though.]
>
>-grace
>
>gibbering like hunter thompson on a revolutionary drug, dmariel@MIT.EDU said:
>
>> I loathe mandatory extra expenses, and I don't think most people are very
>> fond of them, either (especially students). That said, $10/month is such a
>> good deal that I suspect a decent amount of folks would _choose_ to buy
>> passes each month. Why do they feel the need to make this mandatory?
>> (Sure, some people don't get out much, but if someone wants to be a
>> reclusive tool, that's their choice to make.)
>>
>> - Diandra
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jessica H Lowell [mailto:jessiehl@MIT.EDU]
>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:58 PM
>> To: mit-talk@mit.edu
>> Cc: ec-discuss@mit.edu
>> Subject: Mandatory T passes?
>>
>>
>> According to the front page of the Tech, there's a preliminary proposal for
>> requiring all MIT students and staff to pay $10/month in exchange for
>> universal
>> T passes. This was the first I'd heard of this, though apparently grad
>> students
>> have been talking about it for a while. What are people's opinions on this?
>>
>> - Jessie
>>
>>
>>
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