[1698] in Discussion of MIT-community interests
Re: [Mit-talk] Re: dollar bill mural
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steve Kelch)
Wed Dec 14 15:05:01 2005
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:04:33 -0500
To: Courtney Shiley <cshiley@mit.edu>, David Z Maze <dmaze@mit.edu>
From: Steve Kelch <kelch@mit.edu>
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What would you all think of a half wall there instead of a glass
wall? This opens up the space (which was the intention of the glass
wall, as the space is quite small), but also doesn't set the area off
as "something to be looked at or observed from the outside."
There needs to be some sort of support structure in that area, as
there are ducts behind the wall that can not be moved. The can,
perhaps, be cased in columns to either side of the half wall.
This plan, of course, includes the removal of the dollar bill.
Steve Kelch
At 12:50 PM 12/14/2005, Courtney Shiley wrote:
>Yeah, but was that because people liked it when tourists took their
>picture while they were working? I used it because it was by far the
>most convenient cluster. I also liked the window because I could
>quickly see if there was a machine open, but I didn't like people
>watching me. I simply tolerated it.
>
>That was a cluster. This is a lounge. They are not the same thing.
>
>MIT has, lately, been in an architectural phase of putting windows
>on everything so random folk can watch you do your thing. Have you
>noticed the sight lines in Stata, that let you study a grad
>student's workspace from four floors away? And then there's the nano
>lab. This is a terrible trend, and it should be resisted. Opaque is
>*good*. It provides privacy, comfort, and a sense of intimacy. Glass
>is not very opaque. Walls, conveniently, are.
>
>-C
>
>
>
>On 12/14/05, David Z Maze <<mailto:dmaze@mit.edu>dmaze@mit.edu> wrote:
>Martha Angela Wilcox
><<mailto:angela@csail.mit.edu>angela@csail.mit.edu> writes:
>
> > A student lounge should be a comfortable place
> > to hang-out with friends. A fish bowl where international tour groups
> > (yes, one actually walked up and took a picture with me once when I was
> > in lobby 7 like I was some sort of mit statue), sketchy grad students,
> > or tired undergrads can oogle at people supposedly "hanging out" does
> > not sound very comfortable. In fact, being so close to such a
> > high-traffic area, it seems like the only way to make the lounge
> > somewhat comfortable would be to partially shield it from the
> > hustle-bustle of the Infinite.
>
>Before the current Student Services Center was built, the space in
>Building 11 where the current "quick-cluster" is was three separate
>Athena clusters and some other I/S-related space. The outermost
>cluster had all glass walls, and was commonly known as "the fish
>bowl", since every campus tour would stop outside of it to talk about
>Athena. This didn't stop it from being one of the heaviest-used
>clusters on campus; the trip to other nearish clusters (37-312, 4-035,
>1-142, ...) could often get you a login faster than waiting for a
>machine in the fishbowl to open up.
>
> --dzm
>
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