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Re: [Mit-talk] Seeking feedback on alcohol policy

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sam Korb)
Fri Feb 10 13:05:51 2006

Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:05:24 -0500 (EST)
From: Sam Korb <skorb@mit.edu>
To: Jeff Roberts <thejoker@alum.mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <b82503c90602100944h2901ab37sdb5fddd92a6e29c2@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: Brian Sniffen <bts@alum.mit.edu>, mit-talk@mit.edu
Errors-To: mit-talk-bounces@mit.edu

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Jeff Roberts wrote:

> An interesting point, indeed ... we could argue about whether
> "freshmen-on-campus" was really a good idea (though I'm sure most of
> us on mit-talk would agree that it wasn't, or at least not a well
> thought-out one), but on the subject of whether dorms are more or less
> "safe" than fraternities, I think that's another discussion
> altogether.  In dorms, there is generally a greater emphasis on
> independence and personal responsibility than on collective
> responsibility, which is more strongly supported by the
> bidding/pledging concept and "membership" nature of fraternities.
> GRTs and Housemasters are in dorms to provide advising and support,
> they're not there to serve as supervisors or parents.

The flipside to what you term "collective responsibility" is 
consideration for others.  It seems like a lot of this discussion has been 
focused on ways of convincing students in DORMS to take the time to deal 
with a drunk in the proper manner, not merely step over the inebriated 
hallmate on the way to their singles.  Independence strays too easily into 
insularity.  And what about when some takes the personal initiative to get 
him or herself shitfaced?  Who's problem is it then?

Sam Korb
skorb@mit.edu

"If you will it, it is no dream."
       Herzl
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