[1739] in Discussion of MIT-community interests
Re: [Mit-talk] Seeking feedback on alcohol policy
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Pius A. Uzamere II)
Fri Feb 10 14:11:05 2006
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:55:11 -0500
From: "Pius A. Uzamere II" <pius@alum.mit.edu>
To: Sam Korb <skorb@mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.62L.0602101254350.22969@department-of-alchemy.mit.edu>
Cc: Brian Sniffen <bts@alum.mit.edu>, mit-talk@mit.edu
Errors-To: mit-talk-bounces@mit.edu
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That characterization seems a bit disingenuous. The problem being solved i=
s
not a lack of empathy for fellow students in trouble; rather, it's a lack o=
f
knowledge of how to help a drunk student without jeopardizing one's own
disciplinary record or housing situation. This is a problem that transcend=
s
the type of living group in which one lives. A key difference between how
potential solutions manifest at dorms and how they manifest at FSILGs is
that FSILGs have been forced to evolve more comprehensive educational
programs and precautionary measures due to post-Krueger pressure and
scrutiny. The implication that this issue only arises because dorm
residents are so "insular" as to step over sick hallmates on the way to
their singles brings the discourse down into a cliched "dorm vs. frat"
argument that is not useful at all for the problem at hand: saving the live=
s
of students in trouble.
-Pius
On 2/10/06, Sam Korb <skorb@mit.edu> wrote:
>
>
> The flipside to what you term "collective responsibility" is
> consideration for others. It seems like a lot of this discussion has bee=
n
> focused on ways of convincing students in DORMS to take the time to deal
> with a drunk in the proper manner, not merely step over the inebriated
> hallmate on the way to their singles. Independence strays too easily
> into
> insularity.
>
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That characterization seems a bit disingenuous. The problem being sol=
ved is <span style=3D"font-style: italic;">not </span>a lack of empathy for=
fellow students in trouble; rather, it's a lack of knowledge of how to hel=
p a drunk student without jeopardizing one's own disciplinary record or hou=
sing situation. This is a problem that transcends the type of living =
group in which one lives. A key difference between how potential solu=
tions manifest at dorms and how they manifest at FSILGs is that FSILGs have=
been forced to evolve more comprehensive educational programs and precauti=
onary measures due to post-Krueger pressure and scrutiny. The implica=
tion that this issue only arises because dorm residents are so "insula=
r" as to step over sick hallmates on the way to their singles brings t=
he discourse down into a cliched "dorm vs. frat" argument that is=
not useful at all for the problem at hand: saving the lives of students in=
trouble.
<br><br>-Pius<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 2/10/06, <b class=
=3D"gmail_sendername">Sam Korb</b> <<a href=3D"mailto:skorb@mit.edu">sko=
rb@mit.edu</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; paddi=
ng-left: 1ex;">
<br>The flipside to what you term "collective responsibility" is<=
br>consideration for others. It seems like a lot of this discuss=
ion has been<br>focused on ways of convincing students in DORMS to take the=
time to deal
<br>with a drunk in the proper manner, not merely step over the inebriated<=
br>hallmate on the way to their singles. Independence strays to=
o easily into<br>insularity. <br></blockquote></div>
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