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Re: rdns, past and future

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dameon Wagner)
Wed May 27 07:40:56 2020

Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 12:38:08 +0100
From: Dameon Wagner <dameon.wagner@it.ox.ac.uk>
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On Tue, May 26 2020 at 18:59:23 -0400, Jeffrey Altman scribbled
 in "Re: rdns, past and future":
> On 5/26/2020 6:31 PM, Ken Dreyer wrote:
> > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 3:58 PM Jeffrey Altman
> > <jaltman@secure-endpoints.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>  2. Before the existence of DNS SRV records, CNAME records were the
> >>     only method of offering a service on multiple hosts.  However,
> >>     its a poor idea to share the same key across all of the hosts.
> > 
> > I'm curious about this. What makes it a poor idea?
> > 
> > It seems like a very convenient way to scale a service up and down
> > dynamically quickly when you share a key among all instances.
> 
> Because if you hack into one of the hosts you now have the key for
> all of the hosts.  The holder of the key can forge tickets for any
> user.  Since the key isn't unique the entire distributed service has
> to be shutdown to address the vulnerability.  It is also much harder
> to trace where the key was stolen from.

Also, as another simpler example, it can make key management more
involved, rather than more convenient:

Moving and sharing sensitive material around is awkward, but running
`ktadd` on a new cluster member is trivial -- but if you're using a
shared key across all cluster members, you've broken them all except
the newest member (as `ktadd` does an implicit randkey).  I've seen
too many fresh sysadmins break things that way...

Cheers.

Dameon.

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