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wrong data model -- Re: MS DRMOS Palladium -- The Trojan Horse OS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ed Gerck)
Thu Jul 4 11:18:21 2002
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 13:35:25 -0700
From: Ed Gerck <egerck@nma.com>
To: Marc Branchaud <marcnarc@rsasecurity.com>
Cc: cryptography@wasabisystems.com
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Marc:
There is no reason IMO to talk about economics when basic
properties are being ignored.
DRMOS will fail for pretty much the same basic reason that PKI
is failing. We are still trying to create an absolute reference
to measure "distance" in dataspace, when such reference
cannot exist by definition. Data is not an absolute property.
Choosing a reference, and even trying to enforce it, is illusory.
Distance can be measured without extrinsic references and this
is the only model that fits the properties that we need to assign
to data.
A wrong data model is being used, which nonetheless may still
sound intuitive. But one cannot revoke the law of gravity, even
though one might have a good market for such.
Cheers,
Ed Gerck
Marc Branchaud wrote:
> By patenting the DRMOS, only M$ will be allowed to create such a beast
> (OK, they could license the patent without restrictions -- pardon me
> while I pick myself up off the floor). This means that the rest of the
> planet's OSes will have nothing even approaching DRM functionality,
> because nobody wants to be sued by M$.
>
> That's good, but OTOH other OSes will not build anything approaching
> secure computing either, for the same reason.
>
> I expect M$ OSes to provide both secure computing as well as the DRM
> nightmare outlined in Stallman's story. I also expect all other OSes to
> provide neither secure computing nor DRM.
>
> Software patents. Gotta love em!
>
> M.
>
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