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Re: DOS attack on WPA 802.11?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Derek Atkins)
Sun Dec 8 17:39:07 2002

To: daw@mozart.cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner)
Cc: cryptography@wasabisystems.com
From: Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com>
Date: 08 Dec 2002 17:18:31 -0500
In-Reply-To: <at0dfa$4co$1@abraham.cs.berkeley.edu>


The answer is multi-fold.

1) The 802.11i standard wont be finished for a while.

2) There is an apparent Market Requirement for something better than
   WEP __NOW__.

3) The WPA can only change their "requirements" once per year, so even
   if 802.11i were ready in 3 months, it would still take another year
   until it hit the WPA conformance requirements.  But they wanted to
   make some changes _now_ in order to get "better" security into next
   year's product line.

In other words, the answer is due to layers 8 and 9, and nothing
technical....

-derek

daw@mozart.cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner) writes:

> Arnold G. Reinhold wrote:
> >If I am right and WPA needlessly 
> >introduces a significant denial of service vulnerability, then it 
> >should be fixed. If I am wrong, no change is needed of course.
> 
> But TKIP (the part of WPA you're talking about) is only a
> temporary measure, and will soon be replaced by AES-CCMP.
> 
> The question is not "Should we replace TKIP?", because the
> answer to that is obvious: "Yes, we should, and we will".
> Th question is: "Why bother working on a `fix' to WPA that
> will likely never be deployed and that will be obsoleted
> in a few years by the spread of AES-CCMP?".
> 
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       Derek Atkins
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