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Re: RIM to give in to GAK in India
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Allen)
Mon Jun 2 17:15:32 2008
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:33:13 -0700
From: Allen <netsecurity@sound-by-design.com>
To: cryptography@metzdowd.com
In-Reply-To: <20080527210510.GG29326@hn305c2n2.ms.com>
Victor Duchovni wrote:
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 08:08:11PM +0100, Dave Korn wrote:
>
>> Well spotted. Yes, I guess that's what Jim Youll was asking. And I
>> should have said "seemingly-contradictory". This is, of course, what I
>> meant by "marketeering": when someone asks if your service is insecure and
>> interceptable, you don't say "Yes, our ordinary service will give you up to
>> the filth at the drop of a hat", you spin it as "No, our enterprise service
>> is completely secure [...other details elided...]".
>
> But this is not news. It is well known (at least among the Enterprise
> Remote Computing wonks) that only the Enterprise RIM service provides
> "end-to-end" security, while the consumer service does not. There is
> nothing new here. It is not even marketing spin, without your IT shop
> hosting your content, it is hosted by providers subject to CALEA, ...
>
> The good news about RIM is that it has been one of the few devices that
> actually provides end-to-end security for Enterprises. This has been a
> selling point that helped get them a large share of the Enterprise market.
There is now a software product that does about the same for VoIP
that may be of interest when used with Magicjack
(http://www.magicjack.com/1/index.asp).
The software is:
http://zfoneproject.com/getstarted.html
Best,
Allen
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