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Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James A. Donald)
Wed Jun 4 08:27:12 2003

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From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com>
To: pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz (Peter Gutmann)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 20:37:03 -0700
Cc: bill.stewart@pobox.com, cryptography@metzdowd.com,
	cypherpunks@lne.com, ekr@rtfm.com, rsalz@datapower.com,
	sguthery@mobile-mind.com
In-reply-to: <3EDCB916.14077.15D755CF@localhost>

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On 3 Jun 2003 at 15:04, James A. Donald wrote:
> I never figured out how to use a certificate to authenticate 
> a client to a web server, how to make a web form available to 
> one client and not another.  Where do I start?
>
> What I and everyone else does is use a shared secret, a 
> password stored on the server, whereby the otherwise 
> anonymous client gets authenticated, then gets an ephemeral 
> cookie identifying him..   I cannot seem to find any how-tos 
> or examples for anything better, whether for IIS or apache.
>
> As a result we each have a large number of shared secret 
> passwords, whereby we each log into a large number of 
> webservers.  Was this what the people who created this 
> protocol intended?

Or to say the same thing in different words -- why can't HTTPS 
be more like SSH?    Why are we seeing a snow storm of scam
mails trying to get us to login to e-g0ld.com? 

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