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Re: [Cryptography] IPv6 and IPSEC

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Phillip Hallam-Baker)
Thu Aug 29 16:40:09 2013

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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:38:03 -0400
From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>
To: Taral <taralx@gmail.com>
Cc: Lucky Green <shamrock@cypherpunks.to>,
	Cryptography List <cryptography@metzdowd.com>
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On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Taral <taralx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Lucky Green <shamrock@cypherpunks.to>
> wrote:
> > "Additional guidelines for IPv6
> >
> > The sending IP must have a PTR record (i.e., a reverse DNS of the
> sending IP) and it should match the IP obtained via the forward DNS
> resolution of the hostname specified in the PTR record. Otherwise, mail
> will be marked as spam or possibly rejected."
>
> Because under ipv6 your prefix is supposed to be stable (customer
> identifier) and the namespace delegated to you on request. Have you
> asked your provider for an ipv6 namespace delegation?


It is a stupid and incorrect requirement.

The DNS has always allowed multiple A records to point to the same IP
address. In the general case a mail server will support hundreds, possibly
tens of thousands of receiving domains.

A PTR record can only point to one domain.

The reason that an MX record has a domain name as the target rather than an
IP address is to facilitate administration. Forcing the PTR and AAAA record
to match means that there has to be a one to one mapping and thus defeats
many commonly used load balancing strategies.

Google is attempting to impose a criteria that is simply wrong.



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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Taral <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:taralx@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">taralx@gmail.com</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12=
:08 PM, Lucky Green &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shamrock@cypherpunks.to">shamrock=
@cypherpunks.to</a>&gt; wrote:<br>

&gt; &quot;Additional guidelines for IPv6<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The sending IP must have a PTR record (i.e., a reverse DNS of the send=
ing IP) and it should match the IP obtained via the forward DNS resolution =
of the hostname specified in the PTR record. Otherwise, mail will be marked=
 as spam or possibly rejected.&quot;<br>

<br>
</div>Because under ipv6 your prefix is supposed to be stable (customer<br>
identifier) and the namespace delegated to you on request. Have you<br>
asked your provider for an ipv6 namespace delegation?</blockquote><div><br>=
</div><div>It is a stupid and incorrect requirement.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>The DNS has always allowed multiple A records to point to the same IP ad=
dress. In the general case a mail server will support hundreds, possibly te=
ns of thousands of receiving domains.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>A PTR record can only point to one domain.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>The reason that an MX record has a domain name as the target r=
ather than an IP address is to facilitate administration. Forcing the PTR a=
nd AAAA record to match means that there has to be a one to one mapping and=
 thus defeats many commonly used load balancing strategies.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Google is attempting to impose a criteria that is simpl=
y wrong.</div><div><br></div><div>=A0</div></div><div><br></div>-- <br>Webs=
ite: <a href=3D"http://hallambaker.com/">http://hallambaker.com/</a><br>
</div></div>

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