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Re: [Cryptography] NSA and cryptanalysis

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Phillip Hallam-Baker)
Mon Sep 2 15:42:34 2013

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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 14:45:00 -0400
From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>
To: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com>
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On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 10:35 PM, James A. Donald <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote:

> On 2013-09-01 9:11 PM, Jerry Leichter wrote:
>
>> Meanwhile, on the authentication side, Stuxnet provided evidence that the
>> secret community *does* have capabilities (to conduct a collision attacks)
>> beyond those known to the public - capabilities sufficient to produce fake
>> Windows updates.
>>
>
> Do we know they produced fake windows updates without assistance from
> Microsoft?


Given the reaction from Microsoft, yes.

The Microsoft public affairs people have been demonstrating real anger at
the Flame attack in many forums.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 10:35 PM, James A. Donald <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jamesd@echeque.com" target=3D"_blank">jamesd=
@echeque.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">On 2013-09-01 9:11 PM, Jer=
ry Leichter wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Meanwhile, on the authentication side, Stuxnet provided evidence that the s=
ecret community *does* have capabilities (to conduct a collision attacks) b=
eyond those known to the public - capabilities sufficient to produce fake W=
indows updates.<br>

</blockquote>
<br></div>
Do we know they produced fake windows updates without assistance from Micro=
soft?</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Given the reaction from Microsoft, ye=
s.</div><div><br></div><div>The Microsoft public affairs people have been d=
emonstrating real anger at the Flame attack in many forums.</div>
<div>=A0</div></div>-- <br>Website: <a href=3D"http://hallambaker.com/">htt=
p://hallambaker.com/</a><br>
</div></div>

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