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Re: [Cryptography] Hashes into Ciphers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Perry E. Metzger)
Wed Sep 4 10:49:48 2013
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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 10:49:33 -0400
From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
To: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
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On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 10:37:12 -0400 "Perry E. Metzger"
<perry@piermont.com> wrote:
> Phil Karn described a construction for turning any hash function
> into the core of a Feistel cipher in 1991. So far as I can tell,
> such ciphers are actually quite secure, though impractically slow.
>
> Pointers to his original sci.crypt posting would be appreciated, I
> wasn't able to find it with a quick search.
Answering my own question
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/sci.crypt/tTWR2qIII0s/iDvT3ptY5CEJ
Note that Karn's construction need not use any particular hash
function -- he's more or less simply describing how to use a hash
function of any sort as the heart of a Feistel cipher.
Perry
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