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Re: [Cryptography] Opening Discussion: Speculation on "BULLRUN"
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Perry E. Metzger)
Thu Sep 5 18:06:28 2013
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:06:09 -0400
From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
To: "Bernie Cosell" <bernie@fantasyfarm.com>
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Cc: "cryptography@metzdowd.com" <cryptography@metzdowd.com>
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On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 16:43:59 -0400 "Bernie Cosell"
<bernie@fantasyfarm.com> wrote:
> On 5 Sep 2013 at 16:11, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>
> > I would bet that there is more than enough DES traffic to be worth
> > attack
> > and probably quite a bit on IDEA as well. There is probably even
> > some 40 and 64 bit crypto in use.
>
> Indeed -- would you (or any of us) guess that NSA could break TDES
> these days?
The articles make it sound much more like implementation flaws that
have been intentionally placed in software and hardware, and a
select few bad protocols and standards. I'm not going to say that it
is impossible that they can break 3DES at this point, but it doesn't
sound like that's what is being discussed here.
--
Perry E. Metzger perry@piermont.com
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