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Re: [Cryptography] Radioactive random numbers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Perry E. Metzger)
Thu Sep 12 11:00:53 2013

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From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
To: Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com>
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On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:06:00 -0700 Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com>
wrote:
> It seems like Intel's approach of using thermal noise is fairly
> sound. Is there any reason why it isn't more widely adopted?

Actually, I think things like this mostly have been missing
because manufacturers didn't understand they were important. Even
the Raspberry Pi now has an SoC with a hardware RNG.

In addition to getting CPU makers to always include such things,
however, a second vital problem is how to gain trust that such RNGs
are good -- both that a particular unit isn't subject to a hardware
defect and that the design wasn't sabotaged. That's harder to do.

Perry
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