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Re: [Cryptography] Radioactive random numbers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dave Horsfall)
Mon Sep 16 17:40:23 2013

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 07:16:37 +1000 (EST)
From: Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org>
To: Cryptography List <cryptography@metzdowd.com>
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On Fri, 13 Sep 2013, Eugen Leitl wrote:

> > Given that there is One True Source of randomness to wit radioactive 
> 
> What makes you think that e.g. breakdown oin a reverse biased
> Zener diode is any less "true" random? Or thermal noise in a
> crappy CMOS circuit?

It was a throw-away line; sigh...  The capitals should've been a hint.

And yes, I know about crappy CMOS circuits; I've unintentionally built
enough of them :-)

> In fact, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_random_number_generator#Physical_phenomena_with_quantum-random_properties
> listens a lot of potential sources, some with a higher
> rate and more private than others.

Thanks.

-- Dave, who must stop being subtle
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