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Re: [Cryptography] The paranoid approach to crypto-plumbing

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Kelsey)
Tue Sep 17 19:32:49 2013

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From: John Kelsey <crypto.jmk@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:21:47 -0400
To: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
Cc: Jerry Leichter <leichter@lrw.com>,
	"cryptography@metzdowd.com List" <cryptography@metzdowd.com>,
	Bill Frantz <frantz@pwpconsult.com>
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On Sep 17, 2013, at 11:41 AM, "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com> wrote:

> 
> I confess I'm not sure what the current state of research is on MAC
> then Encrypt vs. Encrypt then MAC -- you may want to check on that.

Encrypt then MAC has a couple of big advantages centering around the idea that you don't have to worry about reaction attacks, where I send you a possibly malformed ciphertext and your response (error message, acceptance, or even time differences in when you send an error message) tells me something about your secret internal state.  

> Perry

--John
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