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Re: [Cryptography] RSA equivalent key length/strength

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Kuehling)
Tue Sep 24 09:48:48 2013

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From: David Kuehling <dvdkhlng@posteo.de>
To: Patrick Pelletier <code@funwithsoftware.org>
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 13:26:53 +0200
In-Reply-To: <523E34A6.2010004@funwithsoftware.org> (Patrick Pelletier's
	message of "Sat, 21 Sep 2013 17:07:02 -0700")
Cc: cryptography@metzdowd.com, "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>,
	Adam Back <adam@cypherspace.org>, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>,
	Peter Fairbrother <zenadsl6186@zen.co.uk>
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>>>>> "Patrick" =3D=3D Patrick Pelletier <code@funwithsoftware.org> writes:

> On 9/14/13 11:38 AM, Adam Back wrote:

>> Tin foil or not: maybe its time for 3072 RSA/DH and 384/512 ECC?

> I'm inclined to agree with you, but you might be interested/horrified
> in the "1024 bits is enough for anyone" debate currently unfolding on
> the TLS list:

> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tls/current/msg10009.html

I'm even more horrified, that the Apache webserver uses 1024-bit Diffie
Hellman exchange for TLS/SSL with no way to increase group size other
than modifying and recompiling the sources.  Now that everybody calls
for website operators to enable perfect-forward secrecy, we may in fact
see an overall security downgrade.

  http://grokbase.com/t/apache/dev/1393kx4qn8/
  http://blog.ivanristic.com/2013/08/increasing-dhe-strength-on-apache.html

(Of course you can also get PFS via ECDHE, but many production webserver
installations run older openssl versions that only support DHE)

David
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