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Re: [Cryptography] RSA equivalent key length/strength

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James A. Donald)
Mon Sep 30 20:42:24 2013

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From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com>
To: John Kelsey <crypto.jmk@gmail.com>
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On 2013-10-01 08:24, John Kelsey wrote:
> Maybe you should check your code first?  A couple nist people verified that the curves were generated by the described process when the questions about the curves first came out.

And a non NIST person verified that the curves were /not/ generated by 
the described process after the scandal broke.

The process that actually generates the curves looks like the end result 
of trying a trillion curves, until you hit one that has desirable 
properties, which desirable properties you are disinclined to tell 
anyone else.



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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2013-10-01 08:24, John Kelsey wrote:<br>
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      <pre wrap="">Maybe you should check your code first?  A couple nist people verified that the curves were generated by the described process when the questions about the curves first came out. </pre>
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    And a non NIST person verified that the curves were <i>not</i>
    generated by the described process after the scandal broke.<br>
    <br>
    The process that actually generates the curves looks like the end
    result of trying a trillion curves, until you hit one that has
    desirable properties, which desirable properties you are disinclined
    to tell anyone else.<br>
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