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Re: [Cryptography] RSA recommends against use of its own products.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Lowry)
Wed Oct 2 10:27:24 2013

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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 06:08:34 -0400
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BBN has created three ASN.1 code generators over time and even released a co=
uple. (ASN.1 to C, C++, and Java). I believe that DER to support typical X.5=
09 management is the easiest subset.  I can check on status for release to o=
pen source if there is interest. It has been available as part of Certificat=
e Management systems we've released to open source but obviously this is a v=
ery small COI indeed.

I can read hex dumps of ASN.1 and choose not to develop similar skills for X=
ML and other types.   I'm getting too old for that kind of skill acquisition=
 to be fun. But to forward reference in this chain (with apologies), I too w=
ould prefer a standard that that has Postel's principles as a touchstone.=20=


John Lowry





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On Sep 30, 2013, at 0:28, "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote:

> On 2013-09-29 23:13, Jerry Leichter wrote:
>> BTW, the *idea* behind DER isn't inherently bad - but the way it ended up=
 is another story.  For a comparison, look at the encodings Knuth came up wi=
th in the TeX world.  Both dvi and pk files are extremely compact binary rep=
resentations - but correct encoders and decoders for them are plentiful.
>=20
>=20
> DER is unintelligble and incomprehensible.  There is, however, an open sou=
rce complier for ASN.1
>=20
> Does it not produce correct encoders and decoders for DER?  (I have never u=
sed it)
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