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Re: [Cryptography] Why is emailing me my password?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Markus Wanner)
Wed Oct 2 11:05:36 2013

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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 16:40:05 +0200
From: Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
To: Greg <greg@kinostudios.com>
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	=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lodewijk_andr=E9_de_la_porte?= <l@odewijk.nl>,
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On 10/02/2013 04:32 PM, Greg wrote:
> I agree, I apologize for the excessively negative tone. I think RL (and=

> unrelated) agitation affected my writing and word choice. I've taken
> steps to prevent that from happening again (via magic of self-censoring=

> software).

Cool. :-)

> I don't see why a one-time-password is necessary. Just check the header=
s
> to verify that the send-path was the same as it was on the original req=
uest.

Hm.. that's a nice idea, but I don't think it can work reliably. What if
the send path changes in between? AFAIK there are legitimate reasons for
that, like load balancers or weird greylisting setups.

Plus: why should that part of the header be more trustworthy than any
other part? Granted, at least the last IP is added by a trusted server.
But doesn't that boil down to IP-based authentication?

I'm not saying it's impossible, I just don't think it's as good as a
one-time token. Do you know of a mailing list software implementing such
a thing?

Regards

Markus Wanner


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