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Re: [Cryptography] Crypto Standards v.s. Engineering habits - Was:

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James A. Donald)
Thu Oct 3 09:46:32 2013

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On 2013-10-03 00:46, John Kelsey wrote:
> a.  Most attacks come from protocol or mode failures, not so much crypto primitive failures.  That is, there's a reaction attack on the way CBC encryption and message padding play with your application, and it doesn't matter whether you're using AES or FEAL-8 for your block cipher.

The repeated failures of wifi are more crypto primitive failure, though 
underlying crypto primitives were abused in ways that exposed subtle 
weaknesses.


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