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Re: [Cryptography] [RNG] on RNGs, VM state, rollback, etc.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Denker)
Sun Oct 20 12:20:53 2013
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Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 06:30:14 -0700
From: John Denker <jsd@av8n.com>
To: Cryptography <cryptography@metzdowd.com>,
"rng@lists.bitrot.info" <rng@lists.bitrot.info>
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On 10/19/2013 09:38 PM, Russ Nelson wrote:
> John Denker writes:
<snip>
> Crypto without a threat model is like cookies without milk.
>
> You're making a claim about the security of a cryptographic algorithm
> without specifying the threat model. You are, technically, in a state
> of sin. I forgive you my son. Your penance is to memorize another 30
> digits of pi.
Could we please dial back the ad_hominem nonsense?
If we can't be respectful, could we at least be factual?
It is kinda comical to see the one guy who actually /has/
discussed a range of threat models (e.g. 10/19/2013 02:21 PM)
patronized via sweeping value judgments with no discernible
connection to any of said threat models.
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