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Re: [Cryptography] programable computers inside our computers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Gilmore)
Tue Oct 22 22:27:11 2013
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To: Tom Ritter <tom@ritter.vg>
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 18:11:31 -0700
From: John Gilmore <gnu@toad.com>
Cc: Ruben Pollan <meskio@sindominio.net>,
Viktor Dukhovni <cryptography@dukhovni.org>, cryptography@metzdowd.com
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> >> We thought embedded devices were for physical infrastructure
> >> engineers to worry about, but now they are proliferating inside
> >> our general purpose computers. The next Stuxnet will run on one
> >> of the invisible computers inside your computer.
It is probably ALREADY running there.
With regard to the invisible single-chip computer that sits on every
server's motherboard (thanks, you idiots at Intel), I can't say it any
better than Dan Farmer:
IPMI: Express Train to Hell, v2.0
dan farmer/zen@trouble.org
http://fish2.com/ipmi/itrain-gz.pdf
John
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