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Re: [Cryptography] Size of the PGP userbase?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Chris Kuethe)
Wed Dec 11 13:50:57 2013

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From: Chris Kuethe <chris.kuethe@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 10:37:29 -0800
To: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>
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I just asked a public keyserver: Total number of keys: 3479488

Of course that includes expired, revoked, lost, spoofs. No attempt has been
made to deduplicate identities or count individual UIDs...


On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>wrote:

> I am trying to get an estimate of the size of the PGP userbase for a
> presentation. Does anyone have figures?
>
> I have some figures for S/MIME and I am trying to make sense of them. When
> I started looking at end to end email I was thinking that the problem was
> we never hit critical mass. I am now thinking that we did hit critical mass
> and the product is not wanted beyond a niche.
>
> It does not make much difference since it is clear either way that we are
> not going to get ubiquitous deployment by just waiting around for secure
> email to go viral. The figures suggest that it already did as much as that
> as it was going to.
>
>
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GDB has a 'break' feature; why doesn't it have 'fix' too?

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>I just asked a public keyserver: <span style=3D"color:=
rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;;font-size:medium">Total nu=
mber of keys: 3479488</span><div><div><br></div><div>Of course that include=
s expired, revoked, lost, spoofs. No attempt has been made to deduplicate i=
dentities or count individual UIDs...=A0</div>

</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">O=
n Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:hallam@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">hallam@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I am trying to get an estim=
ate of the size of the PGP userbase for a presentation. Does anyone have fi=
gures?<div>

<br></div><div><div>I have some figures for S/MIME and I am trying to make =
sense of them. When I started looking at end to end email I was thinking th=
at the problem was we never hit critical mass. I am now thinking that we di=
d hit critical mass and the product is not wanted beyond a niche.</div>


<div><br></div><div>It does not make much difference since it is clear eith=
er way that we are not going to get ubiquitous deployment by just waiting a=
round for secure email to go viral. The figures suggest that it already did=
 as much as that as it was going to.</div>

<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">
<div><br></div><div><br></div>-- <br>Website: <a href=3D"http://hallambaker=
.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://hallambaker.com/</a><br>
</font></span></div></div>
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"_blank">http://www.metzdowd.com/mailman/listinfo/cryptography</a><br></blo=
ckquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>GDB has a &#39;br=
eak&#39; feature; why doesn&#39;t it have &#39;fix&#39; too?
</div>

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