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Re: [Cryptography] Moving forward on improving HTTP's security

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Greg)
Thu Dec 12 18:40:04 2013

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From: Greg <greg@kinostudios.com>
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Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 16:15:43 -0500
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> The solution is yurls, Zooko's triangle, and, here comes the hard =
part, squaring Zooko's triangle.

I agree 100%.

Happy to announce okTurtles and DNSNMC: http://okturtles.com

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On Nov 15, 2013, at 12:01 AM, James A. Donald <jamesd@echeque.com> =
wrote:

> On 2013-11-14 15:46, Greg wrote:
>> On Nov 13, 2013, at 7:05 PM, John Kelsey <crypto.jmk@gmail.com
>> <mailto:crypto.jmk@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> So your solution is what?  Continue sending data in the clear?
>>=20
>> The basics would be to not use the CAs. Working on rest of details,
>> they're mostly finished, just gotta make 'em nice 'n pretty. And some
>> code would be good, too.
>=20
> The not quite good enough is the enemy of the adequate.
>=20
> The problem with CAs is that Bob usually knows more about Carol that =
the CA knows about Bob or Carol.  Thus "trust" between Bob and Carol =
supplied by the CA tends to be inconvenient, expensive and unsafe.
>=20
> Introducing a distant third party between Bob and Carol is a security =
hole, not a security solution.
>=20
> The solution is yurls, Zooko's triangle, and, here comes the hard =
part, squaring Zooko's triangle.
>=20
>=20
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