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Re: [Cryptography] Kindle as crypto hardware
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Phillip Hallam-Baker)
Sat Dec 14 16:04:02 2013
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 14:02:04 -0500
From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>
To: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com>
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On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 1:47 AM, James A. Donald <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote:
> On 2013-12-12 04:59, Bill Frantz wrote:
>
>> Note that many business organizations might be quite happy knowing that
>> NSA could read their traffic as long as NSA maintains its "Never Say
>> Anything" reputation. NSA's mistake was passing information about
>> criminal activities to law enforcement rather than sticking to national
>> security. That change of policy scared many businesses, since a clever
>> prosecutor can find something illegal in almost any activity.
>>
>
> What he said.
>
> Also, direct NSA involvement in politics, for example spying on General
> Petraeus. This suggests that if you are republican politician, your
> emails, and your political consultant's emails, are likely to end up being
> shared with your Democratic party opponent's political consultants.
That is rather an amusing claim given what Greenwald and I got up to:
http://www.salon.com/2007/10/31/boylan_3/
I am the person who wrote to Boylan immediately after Greenwald published
his piece. We then compared the SMTP message header sequences to establish
that the messages had been sent from the same server.
I sent a mail to Petraeus informing him of the alleged attempt to
impersonate his communications staff, giving my credentials. Since there
was never any attempt to contact me in response it is clear that there was
never an investigation of what would have been a very serious attack. Ergo,
checking the log files on the mail server showed that Boylan was lying.
The Bush Administration asked the NSA for information on their opponents,
Juan Cole currently has a lawsuit against the CIA and NSA. But it appears
that the NSA actually leaked more information that damaged Republicans.
From 2003 through 2005 Josh Marshall published a series of scoops about a
corrupt group of defense contractors and Republican politicians. Two of the
pols went to prison for taking bribes. But they pled guilty and so the more
lurid parts of the allegations that are detailed in the indictments never
got a proper airing. Such as the prostitutes and poker parties in the
watergate and the connection to a limo company that also somehow got a
contract to drive people between the pentagon, NSA and CIA. The second in
command at the CIA was involved in the scandal and this is what led to the
downfall of Porter-Goss, a republican politician who had been installed as
CIA director.
We don't know who leaked or why. What we do know is that Hayden was moved
sideways from the NSA to deputy DNI and then again to Director CIA and this
coincided with Alexander being put in charge at NSA and the leaks
occurring.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 1:47 AM, James A. Donald <span dir=3D"ltr">=
<<a href=3D"mailto:jamesd@echeque.com" target=3D"_blank">jamesd@echeque.=
com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">On 2013-12-12 04:59, Bill Frantz wrote:<=
br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">
Note that many business organizations might be quite happy knowing that<br>
NSA could read their traffic as long as NSA maintains its "Never Say<b=
r>
Anything" reputation. NSA's mistake was passing information about<=
br>
criminal activities to law enforcement rather than sticking to national<br>
security. That change of policy scared many businesses, since a clever<br>
prosecutor can find something illegal in almost any activity.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
What he said.<br>
<br>
Also, direct NSA involvement in politics, for example spying on General Pet=
raeus. =A0This suggests that if you are republican politician, your emails,=
and your political consultant's emails, are likely to end up being sha=
red with your Democratic party opponent's political consultants.</block=
quote>
<div><br></div><div>That is rather an amusing claim given what Greenwald an=
d I got up to:</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.salon.com/200=
7/10/31/boylan_3/">http://www.salon.com/2007/10/31/boylan_3/</a><br></div>
<div>=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I am the person who wrote to Boylan immed=
iately after Greenwald published his piece. We then compared the SMTP messa=
ge header sequences to establish that the messages had been sent from the s=
ame server.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>I sent a mail to Petraeus informing him of the alleged =
attempt to impersonate his communications staff, giving my credentials. Sin=
ce there was never any attempt to contact me in response it is clear that t=
here was never an investigation of what would have been a very serious atta=
ck. Ergo, checking the log files on the mail server showed that Boylan was =
lying.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The Bush Administration asked the NSA fo=
r information on their opponents, Juan Cole currently has a lawsuit against=
the CIA and NSA. But it appears that the NSA actually leaked more informat=
ion that damaged Republicans.</div>
<div><br></div><div>From 2003 through 2005 Josh Marshall published a series=
of scoops about a corrupt group of defense contractors and Republican poli=
ticians. Two of the pols went to prison for taking bribes. But they pled gu=
ilty and so the more lurid parts of the allegations that are detailed in th=
e indictments never got a proper airing. Such as the prostitutes and poker =
parties in the watergate and the connection to a limo company that also som=
ehow got a contract to drive people between the pentagon, NSA and CIA. The =
second in command at the CIA was involved in the scandal and this is what l=
ed to the downfall of Porter-Goss, a republican politician who had been ins=
talled as CIA director.=A0</div>
</div><div><br></div><div>We don't know who leaked or why. What we do k=
now is that Hayden was moved sideways from the NSA to deputy DNI and then a=
gain to Director CIA and this coincided with Alexander being put in charge =
at NSA and the leaks occurring.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div>-- <br>Website: <a href=3D"http://hallambaker=
.com/">http://hallambaker.com/</a><br>
</div></div>
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