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Re: [Cryptography] Moving forward on improving HTTP's security
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Greg)
Mon Dec 16 18:57:26 2013
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From: Greg <greg@kinostudios.com>
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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:38:00 -0500
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On Dec 14, 2013, at 4:05 AM, James A. Donald <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote:
> Is OK turtles a design, a vision of a design, or an actual product, an =
open source product or a closed source product?
You've asked this question in two threads, but the question is more =
detailed in this thread, so I will copy and past my response here and to =
the other thread. For the future, please post your replies to the other, =
DNSNMC/okT-specific thread.
DNSNMC is an actual open source project (_not_ "product". It is not =
commercial). I will be posting the source to a github repo very soon, =
but as stated on the website, in the amount of time that it takes me to =
do that, you could have already written your own "pre-alpha =
implementation". It takes less than 100 lines of javascript to do that.
okTurtles is "a vision of a design" for an open source project (not =
product).
> If it is an actual thing, I should be able to get a human readable =
name, associate that name with a network address, and other people =
should be able to have secure communications between a name that they =
control, and a name that I control, and thus between themselves and me.
Yes.
> I don't see any way to do this now. So I conclude that OK turtles is =
a vision of how a design should be implemented, a proposed way of =
squaring Zooko's triangle, not an actual product that squares Zooko's =
triangle.
Zooko's triangle has been squared already by Namecoin, but there is no =
existing software that makes it simple for everyone to actually take =
advantage of this fact.
DNSNMC takes one step in that direction.
okTurtles takes yet another step.
Read the paper and/or visit the website for details:
http://okturtles.com/other/dnsnmc_okturtles_overview.pdf
Cheers!
Greg
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