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Re: [Cryptography] Why don't we protect passwords properly?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ralf Senderek)
Mon Dec 23 10:27:41 2013

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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 08:56:01 +0100 (CET)
From: Ralf Senderek <crypto@senderek.ie>
To: Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz>
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On Sun, 22 Dec 2013,  Peter Gutmann wrote:

> It's pretty simple really.  Everyone knows that passwords are no good, so
> there's no point in trying to use/apply/implement them properly.

And if someone dared to replace fast hashes with bcrypt or better, the
the uninformed user would wait for his password check a whooping second
instead of nanoseconds and will certainly think the site has a technical
problem and run to the competition.


             --ralf
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