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Re: [Cryptography] Passwords are dying - get over it

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathan Thornburg)
Tue Dec 24 19:29:43 2013

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 16:24:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Jonathan Thornburg <jthorn@astro.indiana.edu>
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On Tue, 24 Dec 2013, Arnold Reinhold wrote:
> A 10 word Diceware? password has 129 bits of entropy.  Not trivial
> to memorize, but easier than your 13 words, and the individual words
> are shorter on average as well, e.g.:

What are the advantages & disadvantages of this (diceware) vs the old
"think of a long sentence or phrase, and take the 1st letter of each word"
scheme.  E.g. "FDR was elected to 3 full terms as US president & also
served part of a 4th term, but he was never vice-president" gives
  Fwet3ftaUp&aspoa4t,bhwnv-p
That's 26 characters, with surely at least 4 bits of entropy/character,
so we're comfortably over 100 bits of entropy.

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