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Re: [Cryptography] On Security Architecture, The Panopticon,
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bill Frantz)
Wed Dec 25 22:06:07 2013
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2013 19:05:01 -0800
From: Bill Frantz <frantz@pwpconsult.com>
To: cryptography@metzdowd.com
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On 12/26/13 at 5:25 PM, arxlight@arx.li (arxlight) wrote:
>At least to my way of thinking one of the foremost issues that mucks the
>entire schema up is the concept of "knowing exposure" of data that might
>otherwise be shrouded in the "expectation of privacy."
When the US supreme court decided that a woman had no
"expectation of privacy" for what went on under her skirts, I
knew privacy was dead. I then thought about what my grandmother
would say, but didn't want be exposed to something so icy.
When I translated the German I was literally laughing out loud:
>You know what, fuck you and your
>coalition for signing off on Teufelsberg's funding every year).
>...
>One does not, after all, brag about liaisons with illicit lovers to
>third parties if one expects such details to be kept "unter vier Augen."
The bigest problem I can see with leaving the third parties out
is that is -- where's the revenue model that provides an
economic incentive to drive adoption? Even when third parties
start out with a privacy goal, they provide a place to pry as
seen by RIM's and Skype's dance with the national security
agencies. There needs to be a revenue model, perhaps a
distributed revenue model like Bitcoin's enabling of low cost
electronic monitory exchange and the opportunity to make money
by minting.
General purpose hardware manufacturers are as rare as Unicorns,
making them a logical target for black coercion. A possible
solution to hardware compromise is to run crypto code through
one or more layers of interpretation, so it will be hard for the
hardware to detect what computations are being performed.
Cheers - Bill
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