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Re: safety of Pohlig-Hellman with a common modulus?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter Fairbrother)
Sun Dec 7 14:36:36 2003

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Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 17:32:43 +0000
From: Peter Fairbrother <zenadsl6186@zen.co.uk>
To: David Wagner <daw-usenet@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu>,
	<cryptography@metzdowd.com>
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David Wagner wrote:

> Peter Fairbrother  wrote:

>> Not usually.  In general index calculus attacks don't work on P-H, [...]
> 
> Sure they do.  If I have a known plaintext pair (M,C), where
> C = M^k (mod p), then with two discrete log computations I can
> compute k, since k = dlog_g(C)/dlog_g(M) (mod p-1).  This works for
> any generator g, so I can do the precomputation for any g I like.

Duuuh. I _knew_ that. I've even proposed changing p from time to time to
limit the take from an IC attack. Dumb of me.

Too much beer, no coffee, got a brainstorm and couldn't see the wood for the
trees... Sorry.


-- 
Peter Fairbrother

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