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Re: [Cryptography] TAO, NSA crypto backdoor program
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Raphael Jacquot)
Tue Dec 31 14:21:18 2013
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From: Raphael Jacquot <sxpert@sxpert.org>
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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 13:20:48 +0100
To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lodewijk_andr=E9_de_la_porte?= <l@odewijk.nl>
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On 31 Dec 2013, at 05:22, Lodewijk andr=E9 de la porte <l@odewijk.nl> =
wrote:
>=20
> Language oddities / intel spills :
> "Through interdiction" [x can be implanted], what does this mean, =
really? It should mean legally approved physical action I think. (from =
IRONCHEF and others)
=93Interdiction=94 is the fact of rerouting packages in transit from =
factory to customer, so as to be able to hack on it.=20
> "the customer" seems like the NSA is selling this to customers. Who =
are the customers? Do they consider other 3letters customers? Are they =
their own customers? Naive? Maybe they sell it to companies? (from =
FEEDTHROUHG) (note: seems like it's NSA divisions other than ANT, never =
know though especially TAO**)
ANT is a division of TAO, customers are other NSA people.
> "DNT's BANANAGLEE and CES's ZESTYLEAK" - there seem to be at least two =
companies, DNT and CES, with which the NSA works intimately.
DNT and CES are probably other NSA divisions, customers of ANT=92s =
products
Rapha=EBl
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after-white-space;"><br><div><div>On 31 Dec 2013, at 05:22, Lodewijk =
andr=E9 de la porte <<a =
href=3D"mailto:l@odewijk.nl">l@odewijk.nl</a>> =
wrote:</div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>Language oddities / intel =
spills :</div><div>"Through interdiction" [x can be implanted], what =
does this mean, really? It <i>should</i> mean legally approved =
physical action <i>I think. </i>(from IRONCHEF and =
others)</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>=93Interdi=
ction=94 is the fact of rerouting packages in transit from factory to =
customer, so as to be able to hack on it. </div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>"the customer" seems like the NSA is selling =
this to customers. Who are the customers? Do they consider other =
3letters customers? Are they their own customers? Naive? Maybe they sell =
it to companies? (from FEEDTHROUHG) (note: seems like it's NSA divisions =
other than ANT, never know though especially =
TAO**)</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>ANT is a =
division of TAO, customers are other NSA people.</div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div>"DNT's BANANAGLEE and CES's ZESTYLEAK" - there seem to be at least =
two companies, DNT and CES, with which the NSA works =
intimately.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>DNT =
and CES are probably other NSA divisions, customers of ANT=92s =
products</div><div><br></div><div>Rapha=EBl</div></div></body></html>=
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