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Re: [Cryptography] defaults, black boxes, APIs,

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bear)
Sat Jan 11 18:44:50 2014

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From: Bear <bear@sonic.net>
To: Jonathan Thornburg <jthorn@astro.indiana.edu>
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 15:35:27 -0800
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSO.2.03.1401051146460.10939@astro.indiana.edu>
Cc: Cryptography Mailing List <cryptography@metzdowd.com>,
	Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>
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On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 12:25 -0800, Jonathan Thornburg wrote:

> But this raises some genuine questions:
> * Is there a secure web browser?  My trust level in any of the biggies
>   (Microsoft, Apple, Google, Mozilla) is low...

My problem with the entire category is that they are the products of 
people whose whole business model is to sell information about their
customers.  I daresay if any of these things don't share every bit 
of information they can get about you with the software companies who 
provide the browser and those who subscribe to their information
services, some engineer somewhere will be getting fired for failing 
to do the assigned job. 

Security actively flies in the face of the "web 2.0" business model
which is *BUILT ON* surveillence of as many people as possible.



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