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Re: [Cryptography] Boing Boing pushing an RSA Conference boycott
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Ferguson)
Sat Jan 18 00:40:22 2014
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 07:51:23 -0800
From: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster@mykolab.com>
To: ianG <iang@iang.org>
In-Reply-To: <52D8DE18.40001@iang.org>
Cc: cryptography@metzdowd.com
Reply-To: fergdawgster@mykolab.com
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On 1/16/2014 11:39 PM, ianG wrote:
> On 15/01/14 23:33 PM, Salz, Rich wrote:
>>> I never said they were evil, but it might be evil to
>>> reinterpret words to defend the indefensible, dunno.
>>
>> Perhaps you haven't. But others have.
>>
>>> As has been repeatedly mentioned in this list, RSA were
>>> tricked. They and the people within were not evil nor are they
>>> evil. Rather, *there but for the grace of the crypto gods go we
>>> all*.
>>
>> Agree. So why is a boycott a good thing? Why punish someone for
>> being tricked?
>
>
> So, counterpoint. Skype.
>
> They weren't tricked, they turned -- it was a conscious decision of
> the owners to take the king's shilling somewhere around 2009,
> before the sale to Microsoft.
>
> Skype now tracks the content back to HQ, as was reported by Heise,
> proven by Adam, and leaked by Snowden. Undoubtedly, at SKype HQ
> in Redmond there are friends from Ft Meade with their special fibre
> link, indeed the revelations say as much (can't recall where).
>
> Why is there no boycott on Skype?
>
Because the vast majority of users prefer convenience over security? I
can't really answer that.
Having said that, I stopped using Skype a while back -- it cannot be
trusted, as far as I am concerned.
- - ferg
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Paul Ferguson
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