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Re: [Cryptography] cheap sources of entropy
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter Gutmann)
Mon Jan 20 11:01:50 2014
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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:12:52 +1300
From: Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz>
To: cryptography@metzdowd.com, iang@iang.org
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ianG <iang@iang.org> writes:
>Jon Callas (I think) a long time ago suggested pointing your cheapo USB
>camera at a photographer's grey card in low light. The theory is that the
>cells in a camera seek for information and if they don't see something that
>is worth reporting, it drives them a little tipsy. The claim is that this
>effect can drive them into some form of quantum uncertainty.
... unless your camera, or the driver software, is doing postprocessing to
remove noise. If you're using a DSLR for this then you can just force it to
return data in raw mode, but with anything else you have no idea how much
noise is being removed by aggressive postprocessing. Or, more importantly,
whether a future software update won't change things so that your currently
nicely noisy image is de-noised.
So by all means point your camera out the window at the leaves of a tree or
something similar, but don't rely on noise from a static image like a test
card.
Peter.
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