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Re: I don't know PAIN...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Win Treese)
Tue Dec 23 13:36:02 2003
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From: Win Treese <treese@acm.org>
In-reply-to: Message from Ian Grigg of 20 Dec 2003 11:03:57 EST
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:46:22 -0500
Ian Grigg wrote:
> What is the source of the acronym PAIN?
For what it's worth, I was using PAIN in presentations for Open Market
in 1995. As far as I can recall, I altered it from CAIN (which Greg Rose
mentioned). I won't claim that anyone else picked it up from me (with a
few exceptions that I know about).
After a while, I stopped using it because it's insufficient, and because
audiences had started to understand enough that one could stop talking
about nonrepudiation.
Win Treese
treese@acm.org
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