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Re: Nyah, Nyah, I've Got A Secret

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Will Rodger)
Mon Sep 22 12:10:48 1997

Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 09:49:59 -0400
To: perry@piermont.com, Steve Reid <sreid@sea-to-sky.net>
From: Will Rodger <rodger@worldnet.att.net>
Cc: Carl Ellison <cme@cybercash.com>, cryptography@c2.net
In-Reply-To: <199709210028.UAA06747@jekyll.piermont.com>

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At 12:28 AM 9/21/97 +0000, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
>
>Steve Reid writes:
>> On Sat, 20 Sep 1997, Carl Ellison wrote:
>> > Civilians have had strong cryptography for over 3000 years. That 
is
>> > because we civilians have invented the strongest cryptography 
during
>> > that time.  We have used it for encrypting diaries, business 
messages,
>> > procedures for locating buried treasure, love notes, notes 
between
>> > school buddies, ....
>> 
>> The "crypto is normal" argument has been done to death. The people 
who
>> understand it understand it. The people in washington who _should_
>> understand it are only listening to the evesdropping agencies, 
even to
>> the point of ignoring the govenment's own NRC report.
>
>I would say that it none the less bears repeating, over and over
>again, until the media pick it up.

Perry's quite right about the message bearing repeating.

Though I've heard the "crypto is normal" argument, it's almost always 
been in the context of two crypto enthusiasts talking to one another. 
I do at least several interviews on encryption every week and I 
almost never hear this argument from people working the issue in 
Washington. It's not that they don't know or appreciate it. The thing 
is, once you're "on message" you tend to hammer that message over and 
over again. 

Will Rodger
Washington Bureau Chief
Inter@ctive Week
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