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Re: Is 3DES Broken?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven M. Bellovin)
Wed Feb 2 18:27:44 2005

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From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@cs.columbia.edu>
To: bear <bear@sonic.net>
Cc: Aram Perez <aramperez@mac.com>,
	Cryptography <cryptography@metzdowd.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 02 Feb 2005 10:32:53 PST."
             <Pine.LNX.4.58.0502021029470.12752@bolt.sonic.net> 
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 13:39:34 -0500

In message <Pine.LNX.4.58.0502021029470.12752@bolt.sonic.net>, bear writes:
>
>
>On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
><snip re: 3des broken?>
>
>>>[Moderator's note: The quick answer is no. The person who claims
>>> otherwise is seriously misinformed. I'm sure others will chime
>>> in. --Perry]
>>
>>I'll be happy to second Perry's comment -- I've seen no evidence
>>whatsoever to suggest that it's been broken.  But there are some
>>applications where it's a bad choice for cryptographic reasons.
>>
>>When using CBC mode, one should not encrypt more than 2^32 64-bit
>>blocks under a given key.
>
>I think you meant ECB mode?
>

No, I meant CBC -- there's a birthday paradox attack to watch out for.

		--Prof. Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb



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