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RE: Dell to Add Security Chip to PCs

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Erwann ABALEA)
Fri Feb 4 12:37:26 2005

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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 14:43:39 +0100 (CET)
From: Erwann ABALEA <erwann@abalea.com>
To: Jay Sulzberger <jays@panix.com>
Cc: "Trei, Peter" <ptrei@rsasecurity.com>,
	Tyler Durden <camera_lumina@hotmail.com>, rah@shipwright.com,
	cryptography@metzdowd.com, cypherpunks@al-qaeda.net
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.4.61.0502030052350.24645@panix5.panix.com>

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, Jay Sulzberger wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Erwann ABALEA wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Trei, Peter wrote:
> >
> >> Seeing as it comes out of the TCG, this is almost certainly
> >> the enabling hardware for Palladium/NGSCB. Its a part of
> >> your computer which you may not have full control over.
> >
> > Please stop relaying FUD. You have full control over your PC, even if this
> > one is equiped with a TCPA chip. See the TCPA chip as a hardware security
> > module integrated into your PC. An API exists to use it, and one if the
> > functions of this API is 'take ownership', which has the effect of
> > erasing it and regenerating new internal keys.
>
> After TCPA systems are the only systems for sale at CompUSA, how long
> before this off switch is removed?  All agree we live in a time of crisis;
> at any moment MICROSOFT/RIAA/MPAA/HOMSECPOL/CONGREGATIONOFMARTYRS may
> require of all of us an attestation of faith and obedience greater and more
> secure than present hardware can convincingly convey.

And do you seriously think that "you can't do that, it's technically not
possible" is a good answer? That's what you're saying. For me, a better
answer is "you don't have the right to deny my ownership".

-- 
Erwann ABALEA <erwann@abalea.com> - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5

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