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Re: Blind Signatures Digital Cash in Russia?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robert Hettinga)
Fri Mar 27 09:24:21 1998
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:47:23 -0500
To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
From: Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>
Cc: cryptography@c2.net, dbs@philodox.com, e$@vmeng.com, dcsb@ai.mit.edu
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From: Somebody
Subject: Re: Blind Signatures Digital Cash in Russia?
To: rah@shipwright.com (Robert Hettinga)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:29:26 +0000 (GMT)
Robert,
please note here's alotof *huge* projects that talked about.
> So, I'm talking to somebody from Russia about the wonders of digital bearer
> settlement recently :-), and this morning he comes back to me saying he's
> starting to hear of several people there who are planning on issuing
> Chaumian blind signature digital cash, with payee anonymity, even.
Running inet node for more than 2 years I was asked to make a plan
for *new huge ISP* each 2-3 months and only one ISP (<snipped>)
really started off the ground. It's just a people's habit here;
just check Qualcomm's website for an agreement with Ukraine for another
example another (ukrainian) party is dead; I can't locate them here at all.
I've asked about at Qualcomm; they provide a phone number overnight
but no answers on call there.
> I don't know if they're denominating things in dollars, or rubles, or what,
> and I certainly don't know if this is really true, which is why I'm here
> asking you guys here about it.
One should count on "done"-like words there only I believe.
> I'm not saying that Russia's a cakewalk these days, but it *is* interesting
> to note the current Russian state (or lack thereof) is about as old as the
> commercial internet, that not many people use Moscow city phone system
> because there are 22 voraciously competing cellphone companies, etc., and,
> finally, that Moscow has *lots* of Cirrus ATM machines, which means that
> our money can go there. :-).
US money are definitely here. I'm using USD cash for everything more
than $100 after 38-fold local currency fall in 1992 and it's usual
behaviour here. I believe USD cash turnover here is greater already than
one of local currency.
> Does anyone on these lists know of anyone in Russia -- or anywhere else in
> the old Soviet Union -- who's doing fully anonymous Chaumian
> blind-signature digital cash, with a patent license or not?
Being hired by Ukrainian bank and trying to convince local people move
from homemade "crypto" to world-class solutions - I did not heard of
any ecash issuers in exUSSR yet. Except of MagicMoney package I've
setup for our staff at DataProcessing division to play with a year ago.
Please feel free to ask to check any such a reference reference.
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