[2431] in cryptography@c2.net mail archive
Re: Holocomm (fwd)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Rosing)
Tue Mar 31 16:50:24 1998
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:41:57 -0600 (CST)
From: Mike Rosing <cryptech@Mcs.Net>
cc: cryptography@c2.net
In-Reply-To: <199803312037.PAA20449@jafar.issl.atl.hp.com>
On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Jeff Barber wrote:
[holocomm stuff]
> [snip]
>
> Based on past experience, it is probably crap. Gerck used to champion
> his "meta-certificates" and their underlying notion of "intrinsic
> certification" on the ssl-talk list (from which I unsub'd a few months
> back). No coherent definitions of his notions were ever presented by
> Gerck, but there were plenty of condescending sermons on why X.509 and
> PGP certification mechanisms are inherently worthless (he was annoying
> enough that one list member puckishly asked if his name was pronounced
> with a soft 'G').
>
> Perhaps you can join one of the discussion lists hosted by his "open"
> Meta-Certificate Group (where, BTW, "open" means "entry" to the list
> is "moderated" [by him], and only list members can post--I was kicked
> off his mcg-talk list for repeated heresies and failure to acknowledge
> the Supremacy of the Holy Dogma).
>
> I would want to wait for something more than an "announcement" which,
> as far as I can tell, is all that Gerck has ever produced.
I've been on the mcg list for a year and have yet to be able to pin
him down to anything. He is well read and has too much education.
I think he's a nut, but it's a hard thing to prove without getting kicked
off the list.
I think he has some good ideas tho. The problem with ideas is that they
need to be converted into real substance before they can be acceptable.
There are enough of us on the mcg list who are asking specific questions,
we may be able to convert the ideas into substance. Or we may be able
to boil it all away.
The base company (novaware?) does have something to do with lasers. So
he's got the math background to create something like "holocomm". It
can't me much more than a simple transform or else it's computationally
too complex and time consuming. I certainly wouldn't throw money at it
yet, that's for sure!
Patience, persistence, truth,
Dr. mike
