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Re: DES Key recovery project, Progress Report #7

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Thomas S.)
Fri Feb 21 12:49:53 1997

To: Germano Caronni <caronni@tik.ee.ethz.ch>
Cc: trei@process.com, coderpunks@toad.com, cryptography@c2.net,
        des-challenge@MuFFiN.Org
Reply-To: coderpunks@toad.com, cryptography@c2.net,
        des-pr@lists.des.crypto.org
From: ths@rz.tu-ilmenau.de (Thomas S.)
Date: 21 Feb 1997 13:53:36 +0000
In-Reply-To: Germano Caronni's message of Fri, 21 Feb 1997 12:38:18 +0100 (MET)

>>>>> "Germano" == Germano Caronni <caronni@tik.ee.ethz.ch> writes:

    Germano> "After 2-3 months of searching, the whole internet was
    Germano> able to find one single DES key."

    Germano> Do you value this positively?

It depends on how you state it, but it might be used against us, agree.

    Germano> I would suggest putting together all independent and
    Germano> coordinated approaches, give them a fixed start time
    Germano> (e.g. 1.3.97) so that later the claim can be made: "
    Germano> [10-999]'000 machines on the internet found the DES key
    Germano> after 2 weeks of searching." Sounds much better to me.
    Germano> Well, the start was in Jnuary, and nothing to be changed
    Germano> about that, isn't it? ;-)

Sounds more organised as well (which 90% of the people seem to prefer
for strange reasons). I just wonder how to do it... It means that you
can't have a steady growing of the project as last time, you have to
reach and interest a lot of people without actually going on. 

It is a little bit like the hugh PR action for the release of Win95.
What we really need are people waiting eagerly for *the big start*. I
have no idea how to reach this goal.

    Germano> I guesss the actual goal of our current efforts is not so
    Germano> clear anymore... :-( Nevertheless, software is being
    Germano> done, and people are waiting for clients and server to
    Germano> come up. I hope this happens soon.

The goal is clear (at least to me, some people may disagree with my
goal of course) but not the means to reach it.


			Thomas
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